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In this second episode of this two part series, Valerie brings on special guest and fellow therapist Jessica Ginther to talk about the value of the Internal Family Systems model of therapy as a model for helping people come to know themselves better. In this series Valerie and Jessica talk about how all human beings are innately whole and how all human beings also have experiences in life where “parts” or ourselves emerge to protect other “parts” of ourselves that feel more pain than the bodies and brains can handle. This theory of healing helps us learn how to appreciate and integrate all of our overworked “parts” so that the most healthy, whole self inside can finally govern our lives.